Welcome to advanced commercial systems home when the roof nerds. We’re here today doing another podcast for you about the profession that we hold dear in the profession that we love of commercial roofing. Uh, you may be in need of a commercial roofer. You may be in need of your roof, uh, whether you’re a residential or commercial, a need to just to be inspected or you might just be in need of someone to give you a confirmation. You know that everything’s okay with your roof. And that’s what we love to do. We love to come out and give you a full, a full evaluation of, you know, the type of roof you have, the type of installation you have, all the different systems and aspects and characteristics of your roof. Call the experts in commercial roofing Broken Arrow.
We love to share all of those with you. We can gauge the pitch of your roof. Do you know, according to the National Roofing Contractors Association, a flat roofs should have one eighth of a drop when eighth of an inch and withdraw every lineal foot, every linear you’ll running foot of your roof. And so with that being the case, um, here at advanced course systems, we can measure that for you to make sure that you’re meeting the requirements and just the minimums that are needed. Now a lot of times when we’re looking at flat roofs that have a really low slope, you know, a one, 12 to 12 or you know, especially the one 12, what we find is a considerable amount of, I’m pondering and ponding basically defined. The way I define it is just low areas and the roof. Uh, many times it’s between purlins, it’s between rafters as just a sunken area in your roof that’s caused water to build up during heavy rains and that causes ponding and which is basically just a little bitty body of water on your roof. Now here’s the problem with Connie. This is what takes place with them. When you have ponding, you have water sitting there acting as deteriorating agent on your roof. So most roofs are not designed to hold Connie. Obviously metal roofs will never be designed to hold ponding. They’re just not capable of that and it’s not good for them. And so we always have a steeper slope on metal roofs, but when it comes to built up roofs and modified bitumen roof, which are the two things,
two very popular routes that we see, um, that have asphalt agents and their asphalt backed asphalt par. I’m talking about uh, here in commercial roofing broken Arrow, um, these types of roofs really, really, uh, you should not have any type of ponding on these roofs. The Pawnee on these routes will deteriorate the membrane and the water penetrating water tight, enforcing the membrane very quickly, very easily. I have seen modified roofs
that were 10 years old that have a 20 year last fan and that these pawning areas had eaten through the granules and just begin to completely wear out in, in, in beginning to work through the, the substructure and the base. The base mat of those of those products have the modify SBS modified bitumen, whether it’s hot tar, whether it’s cold applied, whether it’s peel and stick. It doesn’t matter. It can eat through it because that water is not designed to sit on mod bit. Now Maude bid, I wish they would come up with a product that was mixed in some account somehow with a silicone base or something. I don’t know if they could ever do it. Um, but once they did, they suddenly would create a product that would be not just waterproofing but water holdings. Now. So these things I’m sharing with you about the asphalt based products, let’s move over real quickly to the single plies. So many products in commercial roofing Broken Arrow. We have more to cover.
The have no asphalt like PVC TPO. These products are basically are like a rubber plastic mat that can deter deterioration. And so hearing commercial roofing broken Arrow, these products can absolutely keep a roof water dry and have a pond for year after year. I know there’s one TPO roof here in Tulsa I’ve looked at for the last five years than it has a very large ponding area on it. And that ponding area, it’s very substantial. I mean it’s a large, it’s deep. It’s four to six inches. It’s really a few hundred gallons of water because the roof was designed very poorly. And so it’s got hundreds of gallons of water and about a two square, 200 square foot area over in the corner of the building with a of wall holding all the water in. And so what’s happened is, um, the more water that gets in this ponding area and the longer the water sits there, it’s driving down the decking is, it’s collapsing.
And when I say collapsing, shrinking and pushing down and collapsing the thickness of the ISO board, and it will even begin to, to move the rafters and begin to bend the rafters and begin to push the rafters down as well, because it’s really a little bit of a dangerous situation. So can you imagine something happening and a whole being created in this pond where you have 300 gallons of water, it’s not going to stop leaking until 300 gallons of water have poured into a building. So you can see how substantially, and this was actually in the apartment complex, and so you can see just how substantially dangerous isn’t it? This is to have something like this, and I’ve shared this with the management there and they absolutely did not care. And, and it’s, it’s completely idiocracy and ignorance that causes people to not want to do the things that they should do. They have the money or they have the budget for it. They just did not that they’re
going to have 300 gallons of water or into their buildings. So obviously, obviously with that specific apartment complex, uh, I within time moved on to stop doing the work for them. Uh, you know, you work with some clients that you really think you should not have as clients. They don’t want to spend money to do things right. And that to me is just as bad as the Roofer who cheats in ally’s to someone and says it. They’re giving you the best product, but they’re not giving you the best product. So it’s the same kind of issues, same kind of challenges. If you’re going to fix a roof, you need to do it the right way. And so that’s the standards and the character that we have built into the very, the very foundation of advanced commercial systems here in commercial roofing, broken arrow. But as far as single ply membrane slack, thermoplastics and thermosets are concerned, especially with the thermoplastics Huh?
I don’t install he PDM unless it’s needed. I steer people away from that just because it is gone in this part of the country to not be the roof that’s, that’s first choice anymore. It is better, um, up north and when you go up north where there’s colder weather to have a black EPD m roof on your building, that’s much better. But down here in the Midwest and then going down into the south, which is where we focus most of our business, it’s definitely better to have a UV radiant UV reflecting a barrier in a single appliance that we use and just substantially the amount of energy that you’ll save in heating and cooling is a big difference right out of the gate GSP cause in commercial roofing, broken Arrow, we have so much sun, we have so much time now. How does TPO and the thermoplastics, how do they do with the cold weather?
They actually do really well. Now here’s a fact about epds. That’s a thermoset EPBM. PDM can stretch up to 300% of its original size. That’s absolutely extraordinary. I mean, just think about 300%. That is a really big stretch. TPO can stretch up to one half that size. And so if it’s a one inch piece, it can stretch up to one and a half inches without tearing or ripping. That’s really a big deal. And this good for TPO to be able to smell and the hot and cold variances that we deal with on a day to day basis here. As I said just a few podcasts ago here in commercial roofing, broken Arrow, um, it’s easy to see the temperature start off at, you know, 27 degrees in the morning and get up to 63 degrees in the evening. We have that over and over and over and over again.
So the, you’re talking about a 35% increase in temperature. It’s really dramatic, uh, of the effect it can have on roofing systems. And so you’re near non plastic, your non uh, elastic, if I can just use that word, a roofs, we’ll see that they begin to crack. This is when your metal roofs are really beginning to unscrew the screws and the roof when you’re having such variances and you’re not just having them once you’re having them day after day after day in commercial roofing, broken arrow. And it really makes an effect on the roof. And it really began to just open up the cracks and opened up holes for leaking to begin. And so when you actually look at the name Thermo Plastic, uh, you got the thermal radiation capabilities of this material, of this membrane, and then you have the plasticizers and the plastic of the polyolefin part, the, the thermoplastic polyolefin polyolefin part, which is capable of holding back the water and having it’s watertight and the weldability.
So the, the weld ability of TPO is found in the polyolefin chemical come composition of the product. And so when you take all those factors into effect, you see why it’s now, uh, taking over 80% of the market right now. And as you just drive down the road here and even commercial roofing, broken Arrow, you can see white roof after white roof. I never see Monbiot being installed. I’d never see built up being installed and never see hot kettles. I’m seeing TPO over and over and over again being installed by contractors. And so the same as the same is true with us. Um, literally 85%, 90% of our business has been installing TPO product. So we appreciate you joining us with a another podcast today here with advanced commercial systems in wonderful commercial roofing, broken arrow. We appreciate everybody that’s always gives us lots of great ideas and topics for discussion and we hope you have a great day.
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