Welcome to another podcast of advanced commercial systems. This is Marty Grisham. I am the owner and founder of advanced commercial systems and I just wanted to say a big thank you to all the people out there who had joined us for so many weeks with our podcast. We have been doing these podcasts for a few years now and hundreds, hundreds and hundreds of podcast and really it’s been down to the one main reason. There’s always lots of purposes for things that we do a with commercial roofing Tulsa. But I have to say when it comes down to it, there’s one specific thing we want to do and that is to educate and equip building owners, property managers, even commercial property managers and commercial realtors. We want to be able to educate and create um, more of the significance that they can have in their capability of making the right decisions for their building envelope.
I’ll have to say the building envelope doesn’t start with a roof. In my opinion. The building envelope of a building starts with the walls, but it’s hide in and it’s ended with the roof. Now that’s just my opinion. But in that opinion with commercial roofing Tulsa, I’ve got to say that the roof is the most important factor because it’s still one that has to shed off and hold back the most weather. And when I say whether, I mean wind and rain, um, and, and not necessarily wind at times we’ll see. That’s what, what
do you need to understand about a driving straight line? Wind? Wind will blow into the side of the building and we’ll blue around the edge of a building and when it blows around the edge of a building, wind actually creates a suction the same way it does when you have Lyft with an airplane of an airplane wing, that lift creates suction that sucks the wings up and literally picks the airplane up because of the shape of the wing. Well that’s the same thing that happens when the wind goes around the side of a building. As it goes around the side, the next side is being sucked out. So it is very important for the walls of a building envelope of a building, commercial building to be secure, to be well put on. But at the same time, think about the wind going over the highest point of the building.
Now you always know the higher points of the buildings get the most win, get the fastest wind because wind the farther further you go up, it has less obstacles. Slowing it down, you get 20 feet off the ground. One story building, there’s a lot of one story buildings, there’s a lot of trees, there’s a lot of things that slows the wind down. The, the, the, the um, the weather element of the wind. And so here with commercial roofing Tulsa, we understand the higher the building is, the more when the building gets, and so as the wind blows,
as the wind comes around the side of a building, it creates that same suction. It creates that same a sucking force. But when it comes up over the top of the building, because of the wind has more capability of being faster up over the top of the building, you definitely have the capability of more
of a suction. And so that lift on the roof, that suction on the roof truly can just lift the roof right up. I was on a roof, a 88 story building that I’d do repairs on and take care of here and toll. So off of close around almost at 51st and Yale and uh, the international tower and there’s multiple spots in the corners of the roofs up there where the gravel is misplaced. And because the wind coming up over the edge of the building, it’s creating this suction. It’s creating such a force that it’s moving six inches of gravel and just piling it in piles, you know, eight feet away. So
that just kind of gives you a little bit of an idea of, although I think the walls are extremely important for a commercial building envelope, the roof at the end of the day is the starting point, then it needs to be done right. Um, so that, uh, that you have a water tight building and now, but the reason why I say the walls in commercial roofing, Tulsa, the walls are more important is because many times the roof itself is tied in and terminated to the edge of the, of the top of the walls. So if the wall is not done correctly, if the wall materials not done correctly, then you’re going to have a roof problem as well. And so now let’s move this conversation over to the single plies, which most commonly the thermoplastics. And so when I say single ply, you might not know what I’m saying. When I say thermoplastic, you might not know what I’m saying. These are types of commercial roofing systems, Commercial Roofing Tulsa, um, that are the white plastic membranes that you see up on roofs. Now these very thin, uh, they average 60, um, 60 thousands of an inch. Okay.
And so when you have that fitness, that very flexible floppy thickness, when you have a wind to come over to the building, there’s the capability of that membrane flopping in the wind.
I’ve never liked looking at a TPO roof, which is a one of these plastic roofs, thermoplastic single ply, you know, thermo polyolefin. I’ve never liked watching one of these roofs just flop in the wind cause I’m thinking of myself, that’s not, I know the roof can handle it. I know there’s the scram has reinforced fibers, you know, the base of that, that material, that product, that roofing system, uh, that plastic has, uh, a very, very strong fibers, which I think last podcast or the one before
I talked about the strength of those fibers. I know in commercial roofing, Tulsa Commercial Roofing Tulsa, that those fibers are extremely strong and I know they can handle it, but I’m just thinking over 10 years, over 15 years, I don’t like that flopping in the wind. So normally when I get up above three stories, I really like to see that we’re, we’re gluing everything down. And so that’s where we glue down the membrane board will be on top of the substrate and we glue it down with a TPO adhesive,
a TPO glue, and we’ll glue that down as to where they will not flop in the land. And it’s just a heart. It’s on a harder, you know, secure surface. Uh, we just finished a three story building. Um, what was it just about maybe nine or 10 days ago, maybe nine days ago. We just finished one and we glued down the TPO membrane. Uh, and by gluing down the membrane a cause it’s three stories that I tell you. We had to take one day where we couldn’t work on the building because just how the wind was popping around the corner and coming up over the parapet walls. And so it was, it was
really a really good diverse I’ve made asked me do you want to screw it down with plates and screws? Do you want to mechanically at here? I’m sorry, mechanically fasten it down. I said absolutely not. We want to glue this thing down anytime I’m three stories or higher. Uh, unless it’s just too much money and they don’t want to be able to afford it, I’m going to lead people as much as I can towards gluing down the product. I text a longer, um, my, my cost will be higher, but at the end of the day it makes me feel so much better cause I just don’t like that flopping in the wind that TPO can do. And I know, and I know an EPD m roof right now, which is also a single ply. It’s not a thermoplastic, but it’s called a thermoset and I’m no aepd m roof right now that just flops in the wind and we have more problems with that roof.
Uh, I don’t know who installed it looks like it’s probably 10 years old. And about four years ago we were brought in to start work on it and there were, it wasn’t installed correctly there, there wasn’t a cover board put on top of the older roof and they just put the roof right down on top of the older roof. Really. It was a horrible design, very, very poorly done. And almost every time you walk on the roof, you’re creating leaks. So, so when it comes to thermal applies, when it comes to thermal plastics, there’s the right way of doing things and there’s the wrong way. And if it’s done the wrong way, it’s just going to cost you money. So I have, I have done probably 10 repairs to this roof, uh, in the four years. Uh, and they’re costly. They probably have averaged anywhere between 800 and 1200 a piece.
And so you’re probably talking about $10,000 in the last four years that they have paid me to just make leagues go away because this roof was so poorly put on. And so literally the roof should not have any issues. The roof should have, uh, should, the roof probably would have cost them, I don’t know, probably five or 6,000 more. Uh, when they originally put it on to do it right. Uh, the roofer was ignorant and stupid and ridiculously bad. Whoever put the roof on and it’s created, or now they’ve paid me $10,000, and they actually called the other day and they were, the property managers were a little upset that it just leaks and leaks and leaks. And I said, I don’t know if you were managing this property when, you know, in commercial roofing Tolson back 10 years ago, but whoever put this roof on was not managed.
They did it poorly. They did a horrible job. The whole roof should have never been put on the way that it was. They cut corners. And literally the whole roof is junk. It’s completely horrible. And that’s why you just paid me $10,000 for the last four years. Not because I’m overpriced, not because I’ll keep finding leaks or I can’t make the links go away. It’s because of a bad decision that was made in their original installation of the roof. And so these are the things that we deal with everyday and they weren’t upset with me. They just wanted to know what’s going on, how come it just keeps leaking at new spots and new spots always leaking. And so there are some, some specific reasons which I know some podcasts quantitive while back I talked about this specific roof, uh, in commercial roofing, Tulsa and some of the, uh, some of the onset problems that we’ve had with it of how it was installed incorrectly.
But I just want thank everybody once again for joining in with us. Great podcast day, another ability of ours to share with you, just some of the ins and outs of commercial roofing and, and also to let you know, we spend a lot of time, uh, with commercial roofing contractors here with commercial roofing toll. So we do a lot of different things to make sure that the industry itself has endeavoring to hold a standard that we all can be proud of. So, hey, we appreciate you guys. God bless you. Thanks for joining in another podcast. If you need anything, check us out online www dot okay. Ruth nerds.com or just gives a call at (918) 973-1010.