Well this podcast this week with advanced commercial systems, I’m still here. I’ve been here a long time and I’m not going anywhere. This is Marty Grisham, the owner, founder and operator of advanced commercial systems. We are the home of the roof nerves here in commercial roofing, Tulsa. And we’re covering some of the common, uh, repair issues, some of the common commercial, uh, repairs that are needed to roofs. And last week, ah, our podcasts, we begin to cover punctures, open seams, open holes. And then this week, I’m sorry. And then last week we covered some of our open seems, especially with the thermoplastics where we’d, and even thermostats, you know, cause I work on quite a few, um, EPD m of the black rubber roofs where the seams are open. Uh, but I find a lot less, uh, open for, for EPD m than I do TPO. Uh, really you need to have a good crew.
You need to have someone managing that crew very closely. Uh, when you’re putting on a TPO roof. When it comes down to the welding, I highly suggest the way we do. We have a one of our roof nerds, one of our repair staff that basically sit on the roof with them all day and as they will go right behind him trying to find bad spots. So let’s move on to our next problems that we deal. Common commercial roof repair issues. One is that of, well ponding water ponding water, you know, when it rains, it’s not about the rain, it’s about managing the water. That rain turns into roof, water, roof, um, moisture and it needs to be managed and the roof system immediately in Commercial Roofing Tulsa. So the whole system, the whole Assembly should be designed to manage that water and to get it off the roof as quickly as possible.
Now, according to ponding areas, pioneers are talking about by the national roofing contractors. Association upon an area is basically defined as an area where the water is not leaving for a, a low slope roofing system. The water’s not leaving that area because it’s not meeting the standards of what a low slope roofing system is, which is basically okay. Over a 48 period of time after a heavy rain, all the water’s should be completely drained off of a low slope roofing system according to the National Roofing Contractors Association. Now that being the case, anytime you find water staying there longer than that, it is defined as ponding water. Now here’s the issue, and here’s the problem. Ponding water specifically is not designed for probably three quarter 75 80% of the roofing systems. Now, that’s one reason why a lot of us and an 80% of the industry, and I would say 60% of the u s given you more statistics, 60% of the u s has moved over to be using 80% of their roofing jobs, TPO, roofing systems, and thermoplastic roofing systems, which will also includes a PVC, which looks just like peeved and it looks just like TPL.
It’s just better for, uh, you know, for some specific at roofing systems and assemblies. And so the ponding water, it was set up on the roof and they can say, and thermoplastics can handle ponding water. They’re specifically designed to be a plastic membrane roof. They can handle ponding water. Here’s the problem that we have. The problem is all the other roofs, like the modified bit of Mum’s, the built up roofing systems, all the other types of roofing systems are not designed to handle ponding water. So when ponding water builds up in commercial roofing, Tulsa on these roofs, one of the things it does pretty quickly is it begins to create a just as buildup of dirt and mud and this buildup of dirt and mud then even makes it harder to be able to find the, the, the problem because then you’re having to now many times clean of the dirt and mud and then also maybe even power wash the area where if you call it the, if you call it the pond area, early on you might not have to power wash it.
You, you, you could probably fix it without that issue. And so TPO systems, you know, thermoplastic systems, they can handle Pawnee water but built up roofing systems and modified bitumen systems. They can handle the Pawnee water for a short period of time, but it really doesn’t take long for the water to make it through the system and begin to create a leak and you hardly find one that’s not going to be a leak soon. But here’s the biggest problem with a modified bit, which where I think we covered mod bit problems a few podcasts ago here in commercial roofing, Tulsa modified bitumen roofing, especially with the granulated kind. When you have ponding water on that, it just really begins to deteriorate. That membrane, that membrane will begin to crack, will begin to deteriorate, begin to crumble. The granules will come off, it will lose its capability of handling UV rays it, we’ll basically begin to I it will probably 20 times faster, lose its life, lose the lifespan so the roof should be up there 20 years from 13 to 20 years.
Your normal, my bits and these, this, this, that area that, that ponding area, Commercial Roofing Tulsa it might be two years. It might be literally a just a small fraction of what it should be. And that’s due to the ponding water is not designed to sit on asphalt roofs. Asphalt cannot handle ponding water that way. And so that’s why a really a large part of the thermoplastics have come out and become so popular in Commercial Roofing Tulsa some. And so pounding waters, just water sit on the roof for a long period of time that didn’t get drained. There’s some inefficiency in the roof and how it was built. There’s a low sloping area, there’s a dip somewhere, maybe this by an h vac unit. Maybe it’s all the way at the bottom of the slope of probably six or 10 feet from a a scupper or a water drain.
But it just has a little bit of a low dipping area. And you see these areas everywhere. They’re absolutely everywhere. Even new roofs being built, these areas are found everywhere just because it’s a, it’s challenging sometimes. And roofers don’t want to put in crickets, they don’t want to put in an extra protection. And that would cause these, uh, these pawning areas from existing. Moving on to clogged drains here in commercial roofing. Tulsa. A clogged drain is basically exactly what you hear. It’s a drain or a downspout that’s clogged. It’s a gutter that’s a not, not a functioning well. I’ve had quite a few gutters in the last year where there’s so much rainwater coming to the gutter. The water is backing up over the back of the gutter and going into the building. So there’s so much taking place. There’s so much going into the gutter. The gutter cannot exit and manage, manage fully, exit the water out of the gutter quick enough and the water will back up and then move into the roofing system on that edge.
And a lot of times just had water running down the wall right there. Deal with this every single day. This is something that we deal with and it’s something that I’ve actually got to build a neuron. Now we’re dealing with this. It is the Emmanuel Lutheran Christian school off of Aspen in broken arrow. Uh, they have a gutter all the way along the front side that it’s leaking everywhere. There’s windows. And so we were truly believe in it is an issue with the gutters. And so we’re looking into that and seeing what we can do to take care of that. So the next is um, fastener issues. Fastener issues are definitely common Commercial Roofing Tulsa issues where the repairs are needed. Uh, this happens when many times water, uh, you know, gets in the roofing membrane system. And what happens is when that happens, the roof expands and the insulation it will expand and it will contract.
And then when water gets in and then just also with a basic hot and cold that we deal with, but it will cause the fasteners that hold down the installation or the fasteners that hold down the membrane in commercial roofing, Tulsa, it will cause them to slowly be pulled out and be pulled and pushed out. And also, so if they’re not going to just deteriorate from rusting, then they also can be pulled out and backed out. And so this is over a process of time. The insulation in the membrane can cause this to happen by the expansion of water getting in there. And so those fasteners, many times I’ve seen many times where they’re poking up and literally putting holes from the bottom side of the TPO and that needs to be addressed. Hey here with commercial roof in Tulsa, I just want you to know that we are the home of the roof nerds.
We are certified with Hagen Engineering, a engineering company that is the best in the world at Commercial Roofing Tulsa issues with storm damage and we are specifically in certified inspectors with his engineering company for commercial roofs. So if there’s anything you ever need, if you just want a second opinion, if you just had a new roof put on by another Roofer, I’m sure they’re probably pretty good guys or are they just might not be. Give us a call, we’ll come out and give you a free roof in evaluation, 24 hours. We’ll give you what you need to know what kind of job you got and how things are looking. And by the way, you know you can always reach us at (918) 973-1010 and we love for everyone to go check out our website. We’ve got that specifically designed with simplicity so that you can check it out and look at it and not get lost in all the verbiage and basically see just what we’re about and that’s found at www dot. Okay. Roof nerds.com we would love to hear from you if you need anything or just advice. I just had someone call yesterday morning and ask me one or two questions about roll roofing and then they got off the phone. That’s all they needed. They just wanted some answers to some questions. Well, that’s what we do. We’re roof nerves and we’re here to serve you. We hope you have a wonderful day. And remember in commercial roofing, Tulsa, it’s not rocket science. It’s real science and stay dry.